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Re: Link in Tango
Posted by Polished
6/28/2008  4:37:00 PM
Well. Well. Maybe we should look how the Tango shape is set up as the man and partner come together. For this I will call square as we are for a Foxtrot.
The Man's feet in the Tango are pointing diag to the wall. The toe of the right foot is level with the instep of the LF. The body is turned 1/8 anti - clockwise keeping the feet where they were.. The centre of the palm of the man's hand is across the ladies spine. The ladies left hand, we now know why it goes where it is does go. Because of our shape the knees are veered in towards each other. The first Walk on the RF has to be in CBMP. The next Walk is not. They both curve to the left. How did this come about. In those far off days in Spain they used to dance at the local market places. When a crowd gather they naturaly form a circle and not a square. So the dance was dictated to by the shape of the space that they had to dance on. So we come to the Progressive Link. The lady is already 1/8 anti- clock. All that is necessary is for her to lose that 1/8 and become square. Regaining that 1/8 at the end of the Closed Promenade. Just for the record it is most likely that a Four Step originally finished in line ready for a Walk. My pedigree. I had lessons with Wally Fryer as well as Len Scrivener and my parents used to go to Alex Moore. That's the first and last time I will mention this. Whenever anybody used to throw this sort of comment, it wasn't uncommon for somebody to start singing " Tell Me The Old Old Story " and to gesture as tho they were playing a violin.
If anybody wishes to go to Dancesport UK and then photo gallery. There are two shots worth looking at. One is Gozzoli and Betti the other is Kiapez and Nigro. Both have finished the Link.
Need anymore be said about how the finish of a Progressive Link should look.
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by Iluv2Dance
6/29/2008  2:20:00 AM
/* I had lessons with Wally Fryer as well as Len Scrivener and my parents used to go to Alex Moore. That's the first and last time I will mention this.*/

Did you mean for this month?
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by SocialDancer
6/29/2008  3:03:00 AM
"Need anymore be said about how the finish of a Progressive Link should look."

Not really. You can count me out anyway!

You started the thread with a stupid question (Beginners please note there is no such thing as a stupid question :) ). Then you point us to some pictures of dancers in PP which may or may not be a snapshot of a progressive link. So does that answer your question?
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by CliveHarrison
6/29/2008  5:02:00 AM
I think that this forum is great: but play nicely, children.

PS. I've never had a lesson with any of the august company cited, but I do have Alex Moore's fax number.
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by terence2
6/29/2008  8:25:00 AM
Is it long distance ??
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by Polished
6/29/2008  7:00:00 PM
SocialDancer. Both photos are Tango. What else could they be doing except going to move into a Promenade Step. Are the heads in Promenade, thats all that is needed.It could be the last step of a Five Step which has the same ending anyway.I'll say it again. You must not finish in an open position. The ladies right knee is touching the back of the man's left knee. Her left knee is touching the back of the man's right knee. Both man and lady have the heel off the floor. The feet are across there own line of dance. They will not open untill the next step which is taken on beats 3 4. Do not wait for beats 1 2. unless you are doing a Brush Tap instead of the Closed Promenade. Failure to do this will results in being out of rhythm unless corrected. If you really want to get into it. How will you get out of a Contra Check which we will give two quicks. Answer exactly the same position as you would have if you did a Link, and step out on 3 4.
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by anymouse
6/29/2008  7:55:00 PM
"Are the heads in Promenade, thats all that is needed."

No. Head position is not what determines promenade.

Foot position is what determines promenade. The body must accomodate that foot position, but by adopting a promenade CBMP configuration, not by opening out.

The fact that this configuration is achieved during step two is why formal descriptions list step two of the link as being in promenade. It has nothing to do with turning the head or turning out the body, and everything to do with the position of the feet and the accommodation of that in the bodies.
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by Polished
6/29/2008  7:55:00 PM
Clive. You do have Alex Moore's fax number. I never realised before today that at a Seance we have fax numbers to get through. Obviously a different Alex.
For Jofjonesboro. Scriveners book which is still available wasn't written by he. It was from notes he had made before he passed away.. I would assume that Nellie , his wife and partner, was responsible for the notes being published. There are no specific parts on steps except a comment on the third step of the Feather and things like . It is far more comfortable on a Whisk if the lady keeps her head to to left. throughout. Which it is.
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by CliveHarrison
6/29/2008  11:24:00 PM
Polished - No, not a different Alex - but a different sense of humour. It's a joke: a quote from "Four Weddings and a Funeral". If you know the film, and recognise the line, you will realise at once at whose expense the joke is made.
Re: Link in Tango
Posted by jofjonesboro
6/30/2008  4:05:00 AM
Polished, the only availability of "Just One Idea" is from collectors at investment prices. The book has been out of print for years and remains so.

jj

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